Hello! I am a designer of tactical/military gear from Splav company. If you have questions about splav's gear and apperel, feel free to ask (exept questions like "how to buy"). I have a polish-russian online translator but it works like crap, so if it is not too hard for you please write in english or russian.
Приветствую! Я работаю дизайнером тактического/военного снаряжения в компании Сплав. Если у вас есть вопросы об экипировке и обмундировании от Сплава, вы можете задавать мне вопросы (кроме вопросов приобретении продукции). У меня есть онлайн-переводчик с польского на русский, но он плохо работает. Если вам не сложно, пожалуйста пишите на английском или русском.
Hello!
Nice to meet You there :)
I wonder how popular in Russia are plate carriers and why suppliers like SPLAV are not producing them?
Are you going to have some vest that is ballistic carrier and tactical vest in one?
There are tactical MOLLE mesh vests and regular ballistic vests like Kazak in Splav offer.
Hello, great to see you here! SPLAV is a well known company in Poland and we do appreciate your contact.
Maybe one day SPLAV will make an option for foreigner clients to buy in your shop by internet. This would help us buying SPLAV products, that have a great reputation among us. That is my small dream. :)
я видел вашу тему на форум компании сплав об костюме горным четвертого поколения.но он хорошый мне понравил сиа :)
я имел все ваше костюмы кромие бекаса и етой горки-4.исползовал я тоже снаряжение тарзан и пиониер ,имел рюкзак охотничый.всё хороше и высокого качества.
Plate carriers are not popular, exept maybe among some elite special forces with big money. Common russian military are poor and wouldnt afford such a gear. For example, SSO is manufacturer focused on common military, so they save money on fabrics and hardware (right now they begin to produce more expensive line of gear, like using Cordura instead of Polyester, Polartec fabrics etc). The most high-tech gear company is Korpus Vizhivanya (Survival Corps), and expensive too. They produce gear for special forces and they have a plate carriers. Also note that it is not only too expensive, but also russians like obsolete gear, webbing is still popular, armor is considered too heavy and hot etc. Splav is different from other companies because it doesnt have any goverment contracts, it is 100% retail. Few years ago Splav was a low budged gear company, but then it began to develop a wider range of gear. Right now we have a low-budget gear like "Bekas" and M21 and some modern things like pouches made of Cordura and Duraflex buckles, BDU and ACU replicas made of NYCO fabric and a lot more. Of course we wish to produce some plate carriers but we have to fill some gaps first, with some simplier gear that we still dont have. For example right now we are finishing a MOLLE chestrig, then we will make a new mesh MOLLE vest, and only then we can think about such an expensive thing as plate carrier.
And by the way "Alpha Spetssnaryazhenye" that is so advertised on this site is extremly cheap piece of crap. They got tender for making pseudo-multicam gear for FSB only because of low price - our goverment always save a lot of money on soldiers. Even SSO stops to make gear of Polyester and russian made plastic harware.
Были небольшие тендеры (государственные контракты). Но в основном военные закупают вещи в частном порядке. У меня на работе коллеги шутят: "тендер - ругательное слово" :)
много вашего снаряженя мжно было увидет на бойцах на войне pоссийско-грузинскей в 2008 г.но не долго будет её третья годовшчина.я слышал что многие солдаты покупают вещи индивидуально.в калининграде ест ваш магзин там часто покупают морпеха.
на фото в профилю я в костюме M21 и кепи горным зделвеисс ( уже нет в производствие ).всё из сплав тельняшка тоже :)
Hello.
I have a question about russian modern camos, which are based on western patterns. What is the reason of making such a stuff? I mean mostly things like Skol/Izlom, Smog, US Woodland based camos etc. Does the Russians are making them just because that camoflages are good in their enviornment? Or your spec-ops want to have some similar to the western patterns in case of diversionary tasks on western territories?
Please, do not take my post as an some kind of attack. I dont want to offend you, I am just curious.
Thanks a lot for respond
Patterns you mentioned are 100% commercial, they are not issued really. It is made so people will buy it, because western-style uniforms and patterns are considered to be tacticool. Also russians have a chaos in uniforms and most of the military are very poor experts even in their own gear. Sometimes they dont even know that DPM is british, Woodland is american etc.
By the way USSR and Russia has a great school of camuflage pattern design, and created a lot of effective patterns. But there are two problems:
1. This patterns are dull-looking (but still effective!) and not tacticool, so for commercial manufacturers there is no advantage to make clothes with this patterns
2. People used to think that issued official unifoms are low-budget crap, so even if you make some good ACU in "flora", for example, they will associate it with issued crap
But they have low "cool factor". The same is in Poland, most popular stuff is from germany/england (becose it is indecently cheap) or american (popular in movies and other media). Also, there are many cheap copies.
But in fact - my friends using newest german stuff are impressed by Gorka-3, despite its simply brown :D
Slowly this is changing, more and more people are attracted to USSR/Russian camuflage patterns by their effectiveness. Especially those "exotic" ones, like Березка and newest digital - flora, border (Граница) and flectars. (flectar-d is often called "peas").
But most popular camuflage pattern (and most efficient) is SS-Summer (wrongly called partizan).
:D By the way guys from SSO say (in russian forums) that this pattern is not effective, and how stupid it was to adopt WW2 era nazi pattern. The story behind this was funny - thy made suits for one WW2 movie and some fabric left, and there was some guy is SSO - a retro collectioner. So they made suits based on SS anoraks with this pattern, and it became popular. Russians are crazy fans of everything german. Even soviet "gorkas" are based on SS mountain anoraks, and "Mabuta" design is inspired by east german airborn suit :)
Holy shit! :) That's a nice story. I have Flectarn-D and it's a very effecitve pattern in Polish nature, of course especially in the forest. It's actually my favourite. SS Summer is, as I see, most popular and cult pattern among airsoft players who like Russian style.
Thanks for response. I have another question- in fact, it should be adressed to the russian soldiers, but maybe you will know the answer. I've seen a lot of photos of russian modern army, and i've spotted one thing- there is almost no boonie hats. Soldiers are wearing kepi, patrol caps or helmets. Im somekind surprised because in Poland, and in NATO armies as well, boonies are popular when boys are doing "green tactic". Soviets had an Panama hat during fights in Afghanistan and after that I cant see wider use of hats in army. What is a reason of such a state of things?
Hello!
I'm pretty much convinced to buy gorka, but haven't decided since
prices aren't much different here. Could you tell me about upgrades which
were applied to gorka 4? I'd like to know advantages of g4 over g3.
Thanks in advance!